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Thursday, February 28, 2002
 
VOL. I Issue 2I
COMPUTER PROBLEMS AND ILLNESS DELAY PUBLICATION OF "THE HOLABIRD ADVOCATE"
On Satuday morning as our courageous dynamic publisher,Jerry Hinkle,was watching over his grandfather,E.E. Hinkle, he noticed that something was definately wrong with the 99 year old gent.He was quiet(always a sign of trouble) and spent a lot of time sitting slumped over and had no energy.Jerry and Harold got him to eat breakfast,but he wanted to go back to bed.He stayed in bed for most of the afternoon and into the evening when Harold called Darrel over to see what he thought.it was decided to get the old boy to the hospital.Internet use around the Ponderosa was limited in case of telephone calls back and forth,postponing many stories, including an op-ed about the olympic figure skating.That will be coming up later in this edition.
MARY HINKLE DESERTS THE PONEROSA TO LIVE IT UP
While E.E.Hinkle was struggling for his life in the hospital,Mary Hinkle and her mother,Agnes Hahn,went to Lynel Rogers wedding to Sam Wurtz. It was reported by that she was at the dance for quite a while too.She didn't call home until Sunday afternoon.She and Agnes did go to see E.E. in the hospital on the way home.It was at that point that she saw how sick he was.Mary talked about not having the Y1C celebration and we can only assume she was planning his funeral in her head.
E.E. HINKLE MAKES MIRACLE RECOVERY:DOCTORS STUPIFIED
Monday when Harold and Mary went to see him in the hospital,E.E. Hinkle was sitting up wide awake and eating a hunk of roast beef.his only complaint was "Where's Jerry?".As it turns out Jerry stayed behind to take and leave messages with all the interested parties about his heath status. The doctors who were watching over E.E.for Doc Paul thought that he had a stroke and looked all over his cat scans for evidence,but none was found. The final dianosis was pneumonia.Of course people in his age group can die of pneumonia,but it may have been caught in time.E.E. made it back home on Wednesday afternoon.He was hungry and just a little tired.
JERRY HINKLE FORCED TO TAKE HIS OWN ADVICE SMILES AT THE IRONY
by Jerry Hinkle Special to The Holabird Advocate
I,your courgeous and dynamic publisher, was quite impressed by the ladies olympic figure skating event,which took place a week ago tonight.Usually we on the Ponderosa can't recieve the NBC signal,but I watched the whole spectacle except for the scores that Michelle Kwan recieved.as it turned out they were more important than I realized.I couldn't believe that her scores and that of the Russian Slutskya were higher than Sascha Cohen.I remember what I told you the Reader earlier however and as hard as it was for me,I didn't let it bother me.I'm not the olny one who thought she deserved a silver medal,but I was not a judge and neither was the person who I talked to.Of course i am a little biased were MS. Cohen is concerned because the National Beef Council,who bring the words "Beef,it's what's for Dinner" into your homes in print,radio,and T.V.,sponsored her.Cattle producers,like us here on the Ponderosa pay for the activities of this organization.In a way we sponsered MS. Cohen.I've heard reports that she "accidentaly" bumped into Michelle Kwan 3 times in the duration of the olympic games.Vegatarians say that eating red meat makes people more aggresive If MS. Cohen is in fact eating red meat,and for the amount of money she gets,she better be,then I would be hard pressed to disagree.Poor MS. Kwan,I remember when she was the #3 skater on Team USA during the whole Harding-Kerrigan mess.Better luck next time,I guess.Life indeed is not fair,but that's the way life is,I guess.In conclusion i must say that the flawless performance that Sarah Hughes gave was worth of the gold medal she recieved.How anyone would or could dispute that is beyond me.
POETRY CORNER
This was written 4 years ago during the Nagano Games on CBS
THE TRIPLE KLUTZ
by Jerry Hinkle
I watch the figure skaters
on T.V. do figure eights
Whenever I go on the ice
I don't need those skates
I'll never do a toe loop
Much less a triple Lutz
But one move I've perfected
is called the triple Klutz
You see,the skaters on T.V.
Well they have such charm and grace
But put a pair of skates on me
And I'd fall on my face
So I go on the ice with boots
as clumsy as an ox
I slip,bend over,and fall down
I hope, on my buttocks
So try this move when on the ice
But look out,and beware
Because if you should do it wrong
You'll hurt more that your derriere
And when you do it,don't be sad
if you can't do it with class
It's hard to look dignified
when you're sitting outside on the ice





Wednesday, February 20, 2002
 
VOL. I Issue 2H
BABY GIRL AASBY HAS A NAME
Mike and Carla Aasby have named their 4th daughter Lainie.The baby is home now.Darrel and Kristi Hinkle have visited the Aasbys to see baby Lainie
BRITTANY HINKLE'S BIRTHDAY PARTY PREPARATIONS
Hard as it is to believe Brit Hinkle is going to be turning 5 years old on the 4th of March.The party this year will have a Harry Potter theme.Darrel has decided to throw the best party that money can buy.So far the cost is estimated at $21.That could change at any time.
E.E. HINKLE EXPERMINTS WITH NEW HEARING AID
When told of E.E. Hinkle's hearing difficulty,Wilbur Hoffman offered Harold Hinkle the use of a hearing aid that his mother used until she died 4 years ago at the age of 104.After this miracle of the ages was delivered,Harold put it to use.E.E. said "It just buzzes".Back to the old drawing board.
AROUND THE PONDEROSA
Darrel and Kristi had business in Pierre so Mary,Harold ,and Jerry Hinkle had to babysit.When Mary went for her walk,she not only took Brit and E.E. along,she pushed Shelby in the wheelchair.Harold and Jerry entertained Justin inside.
REPUBLICANS DRAW FIRST BLOOD IN SENATE RACE
Just as John Thune predicted, the senate race got a little negative.Soft money ads have come from both parties,but the Republicans started it all.The Democrats are of course responding in kind.The candidates themselves (Johnson and Thune)are both going out of their way to look like they are working in a bipartisan way.It's gonna be a long haul until Election day in November.





Saturday, February 16, 2002
 
VOL. I Issue 2G
AASBYS HAVE VALENTINE BIRTH
Mike and Carla Aasby welcomed another girl into the family on St. Valentines Day.The baby,Who's name has not been released yet, joins 3 older sisters Casey, Josie, and Riley.She tipped the scales at 7 lbs.15 oz.More details when they become available.
THE "ODD COUPLE" SAGA CONTINUES
Darrel and Harold Hinkle went to Pierre to look at a possible cow purchase,while Mary went to Highmore for the June Harter funeral.That Left Jerry to make dinner for E.E. Hinkle by default.Murhphy's Law was in full effect there.Anything that Jerry could mess up,he did.He served hamburgers prepared on a George Foreman grill.This made both the bottom and the top black.Old E.E. thought that Jerry put the Catsup on the burgers before he fried them.Jerry then served him the wrong boiled egg.There was an egg that was already peeled and in a plastic bag behind the bowl of boiled eggs of which Jerry took one out.OH ! the Shouting that old boy did to see that ! But the worst faux pas that Jerry commited was to serve him breakfast prunes.No harm was done,as E.E. didn't eat them.Obviously the only reason he lived this long is that he never had to eat Jerry's cooking before.
AGNES HAHN HOMEWARD BOUND
It was quite a struggle,but Agnes Hahn finally got a set of teeth that suited her.She has done her share of traveling too.from Iowa to Minnesota,back to Iowa and finally on her way back home.a lot of people wondered where she was,but not one single reader (nor may we add any of the married one's) of The Holabird Advocate had to wonder about that.They're a well informed group as most things go .
YOU READ IT HERE FIRST
by Jerry Hinkle, Special to
The Holabird Advocate
The Mainstream media reported last night that Miss Cleo has been charged with fraud.On Wednesday of this week The FTC cited a so-called "laundry list of unfair and deceptive practices"against Miss Cleo,who's real name is Youree Dell Harris.The state of Florida has also filed its own suit allaging that she is-get this-bogus.She and her minions have been ordered to stop using deceptive advertising and they are attempting to freeze the assets of Miss Cleo and certain associates.This would in effect shut her down.I, your courageous dymamic publisher have blocked a total of 15 seperate e-mail addresses from which her organization sent me what i believe to be and what could be reffered to as spam because I never asked for her business in the first place.People who have placed themselves on her "do not call" list recieved as many as 10 calls a day.a recorded message beckens them to "call me now" because she "had a dream about them".An attorney for Miss Cleo claims that only "a handful of complaints have been recieved compared with millions of satisfied customers".
The psychic service charges $4.99/minute for it's"free tarot reading" and the average call is charged $60.This includes time on hold.Howard Beales of the FTC told the Associated Press"It's a mystery to us why Miss Cleo and her employers haven't seen this coming."
As i said before you read it here first.I called Miss Cleo a fraud and all of us at The Holabird Advocate stand behind that statement.If you care to feel free to peek at January's archive and read that story.It was the January 5th edition.





Wednesday, February 13, 2002
 
VOL. I Issue 2F
MUSIC LEGEND WAYLON JENNINGS DEAD AT 64
by Jerry Hinkle Special to The Holabird Advocate
Waylon Jennings died today of diabetic complications at his home in Arizona.He,along with Willie Nelson pioneered what has been refered to as "Outlaw Country".His career started with an association with Buddy Holly,who produced his 1st record "Jole Blon", and lasted for almost 5 decades with 60 albums and 16 #1 hit singles on the country chart to his credit.Jennings,who was 64,is being remembered fondly by fans and fellow artists alike,myself among that number.Back when I sang karaoke while trying to "find myself",I got into a group called "the highwaymen".I sang the Waylon Jennings part.We were not "The Highwaymen"by any means.A passage from that song goes "They burried me in that great tomb that knows no sound,but I am still around.I'll always be around and around and around and around...".Through his music he will indeed still be around.And may it always be so.
In 1959 Jennings almost met his end as previously reported in the February edition of The Holabird Advocate(consult the archives if you care to) when he gave up his seat on a plane flying from Mason City,Iowa to Fargo,North Dakota.Luckily for him and us,he lived on to bigger and better things,such as T.V. with "The Dukes of Hazard",and movies such as Sesame Street's"Follow That Bird" and a made for television remake of the classic "Stagecoach"(which was better than the original,I thought.
He was survived by his 4th wife, Jessi Colter, and his son, Shooter.
WHERE'S THE BEEF? IN THE FREEZER
The Hinkles,through trial and error completed the butcher proccess on the 3 legged heifer.It was said that next time they should get a book to learn the proper way if this event should have a repeat.Darrel has even expressed interest in seeing the way the Myers family does it.They say"The proof of the pudding is in the eating".It should work that way with beef too.The next project will be looking for the prime rib cut.
VALENTINE'S PREP
Tomorrow is St. Valentine's Day.To get ready for the big event Brittany Hinkle put cards together for her family and friends and stuffed them in envelops.Don't wait for your cards by the mailbox though.If your not within driving distance you won't get a thing.
OLYMPIC SCANDAL RAISES A STINK
by Jerry Hinkle
Special to the Holabird Advocate
The results of the Olympic mixed doubles figure skating competition in Salt Lake City,Utah has been a bone of contention for many people all over the world.It seems that nobody shares the judges sypathy for the Russian team's female skater because of Canada's flawless performance.I can not weigh in as far as who's right or wrong as i didn't see what happenned.However as a former spectator of similar spectacles such as Tonya Harding I can tell you that life is not fair.Deal with it.If you think that the Canadians were robbed of a gold medal,well hard cheese,deal with it. these Olympic games have been contraversial ever since it was discovered that the officials were bribed to have tha 2002 games in Utah to start with.I'll tell you how I'll deal with the Olympic games.I will not watch the cussed thing.I will watch something else,or,failing that read a book.I refuse to get worked up over something that isn't really that important to begin with.If it upsets you either deal with it or walk away.
"FRIENDS" TO "RACHEL":YOU'RE GONNA LIVE
by Jerry Hinkle Special to The Holabird Advocate
Talk about getting upset over something that doesn't matter,but guess what,"Rachel" a character on the T.V. show "Friends"was rumored to be dying in childbirth.The good news for her,the 30 or so fans of her, and the actress, Jennifer Aniston, who portrays "Rachel" is that she is not going to meet her grizzly end.Yeah,big deal.Isn't this show supposed to be a comedy?Dying in childbirth don't sound funny to me.I can't believe people actually made such a stink about this.HOWEVER,if those Bozos at the network even think of harming Lisa Kudrow,I'll go over there and do a little "oops" upside the head.





Monday, February 11, 2002
 
VOL. I Issue 2E
WINTER WEATHER RETURNS TO HOLABIRD
Saturday morning was snowing and blowing enough that attendance was down at the Farm and Home Show at the Hyde County Auditorium in Highmore.The show was closed down at 2:30.The weather cleared up at about 3 o'clock.
BRITTANY HINKLE A BIG HIT AT CHURCH SERVICES
Children's time at the Methodist Church has been getting more attention than the sermon lately.The reason is Britany Hinkle,an almost 5 year old bundle of dynamite.Last Sunday she and 8 month old Dylan McDonell were the only children present at the service.Pastor Phil gave the invitation for the children to come up,then mentioned that Dylan was too little to come up himself.At that point Brit took it upon herself to go to his parents and see if she could take him up with her.the whole congregation just thought it was lovely.she brpught him up and Pastor Phil said that she did what he wished everyone in the congragation would to,that being when he gave the call that people not only excepted,but brought a friend.Isn't it written somewhere"A little child shall lead them."? This week Brit wanted to share Valentine candy with Pastor Phil before the service started.Her grandparents are well pleased that she is so good at children's time.They just wish she'd behave during the rest of the service.
HAROLD AND MARY HINKLE OUT ON THE TOWN
Ken and Renee Kirby invited Harold and Mary to a Friendship Banquet in Gettysburg on Sunday evening.They tried to use all the old excuses,such as the weather and even "taking care of Emory", to no avail.The weather turned nice and Jerry stayed behind with his Grandad.They went and caught up with these old friends and neighbors. The entertainment included a comic from Stassburg,North Dakota named "Milo".
E.E. HINKLE SLEEPS THROUGH THE NIGHT
Sunday morning E.E. Hinkle skipped church in Highmore,but watched 3 hours of church programing on television.At dinner time he got tired of waiting and made himself a sandwich and then ate dinner.He stayed up until 8:30 that evening,went to bed and then to sleep around 10:30.The usually nocturnal 99 year old didn't get up until the next morning.E.E.'s father Ed was famous for saying"Once a man,twice a baby",so nobody feels bad that he slept through the night.





Thursday, February 07, 2002
 
VOL. I Issue 2D
HINKLES MAKE DO WITHOUT BUTCHERS
With Kolda processing burned to the ground and Mcdonald's Meat Locker booked solid it was up to Harold,Mary,and Darrel Hinkle to make meat out of the 3 legged heifer that has been pretty much waiting to die since freezing of one of her feet(almost to the knee)."When she's ready she's ready" declared Harold as they went about their task.Jerry was out there,mostly handing out tools as they used 5 different knives and a saw to get the meat harvested from the hide.suprisingly nobody lost their lunch at any time during the process which will not be detailed as some of you may be eating.If the butchering process affected Jerry at all you wouldn't have known it as he had hamburger for dinner.
POLITICS AS "UNUSUAL" IN SOUTH DAKOTA
The campaign season has started for better or worse in South Dakota.It's not "politics as usual" either.Our Senator Daschle,who is not up for re-election this year is being targeted by a group calling itself "Club for Growth".They have spent quite a few dollars advertising on television about him.All oif us at The Holabird Advocate can't figure out why.They have caused Daschle to take out some T.V. time as well.It could get nasty.On the other hand,we have Senator Tim Johnson,who is up for re-election this year.He is being challenged by Representitive John Thune.That contest is not getting nasty.Not yet anyway.Thune even went so far as to say that if anything negative about Johnson he would not be behind it,and that if negative campaining starts,we are being asked to ignore it and vote "for a candidate" rather than "against the other guy".Can you imagine such a thing?What if this kind of thing were to catch on?It would be nice if it happens.of coursethey are both spending a lot of money pumping themselves up,but we'll live with it,as long as they aren't tearing each other down.This race is said to be watched by a lot of people all over the nation.Lets hope Thune and Johnson keep up the good work.
MUSIC REVIEW
Alan Jackson's latest album is #1 on the Billboard chart right now.None of us at The Holabird Advocate can figure out why.People for whatever reason can't get enough of "Where were you when the World Stopped Turning?"Talk about a stupid question.The world is still turning.Life goes on.Does this mean we were not effected by the events of September last?No,but we were not effected by this totally meaningless song of Mr Jackson's.If he had nothing to say he should have said nothing.Still we give him points for effort.It is hard for anyone to come up with something meaningful to say about this topic.At least he tried.The song "I'm a work in Progress", however made me smile.That song will go a long way to help bridge the gender gap between husbands and wives.Alan Jackson has sold 35 million records in his career.and this album will make that figure jump before it's all done.We hope he put's the royalty money to good use.





Wednesday, February 06, 2002
 
VOL. I Issue 2C
AGNES HAHN GOES NORTH
Tired of having nothing to do at the Hansen house, Agnes Hahn went to spend a few days with Phyllis and Larry Ehlers at their place.She won't be idle there not if Brandon and Jesse have something to say about it.Phyllis and Larry just got back from their vacation in Cancun,Mexico.I'm sure they're well tanned.It may have been a big adjustment to come back to the snow and cold.
ON THE ROAD AGAIN: THE WEIGHT WATCHERS SAGA CONTINUES
Mary Hinkle has been seen walking on the road for quite some time.She gets in about 3 miles a day now.A Holabird chapter of Weight Watchers is still in the planning stages.One Question being asked is"Will those who lose weight get paper clips as a reward.".A jar full of paper clips was found in E.E. Hinkle's house that was almost thrown away.Thanks to the quick thinking of Jerry Hinkle,those paper clips were saved from the trash heap.Perhaps an arrangement could be made.
KRISTI GOES TO PARENTING CLASS
Kristi Hinkle mother of 3 enrolled in a 3 day parenting class.When the techniques that she learned were put into practice,however it was reported they did not work.It was suggested that The 3 Hinkle kids should be sent to a kidding class.That suggestion was not met with exitement when it was given.Maybe Kristi thought the suggester was kidding.
PUBLISHER GETS TESTED FOR DIABETES
Jerry Hinkle,courageous dynamic publisher of The Holabird Advocate was given a test for diabetes at the insistance of Harold Hinkle who thinks Jerry is drinking to much water.The test,administered by Darrel Hinkle was not without it's setbacks.Jerry had to be poked in the same finger 5 different times. Luckily it was all painless.When all was said and done the result was 129 which Darrel says is normal.Harold claims that it is too high.Interesting considering he had no medical training and only got up to the 3rd grade in country school.Darrel on the other hand is an old pro at taking blood sugar readings from his wife and anyone else who will sit down long enough to get poked.Mary Hinkle pointed out that the test is supposed to be taken on an emtpy stomach.All of us here at The Holabird Advocate feel that perhaps Harold should be glad that Jerry is actually drinking water instead of tequila like his brothers did when they were in high school.We also hope that Harold will give up the unrealistic expectation that Jerry get an 85 on that test.Not even E.E. Hinkle can score that low and he eats better and healthier than just about anybody.





Saturday, February 02, 2002
 
VOL. I Issue 2B
GROUND HOG DAY ON THE PONDEROSA
February 2nd being ground hog day as it is was celebrated on the Ponderosa by eating pork sausage(those Hinkles are funny that way),Mary spent the morning cleaning up the E.E. Hinkle house while he watched her quietly.Jerry Hinkle reports that he didn't see his shadow all morning.Had he been able to see a shadow there would have been four more weeks of winter.As it is,spring will not arrive until the 21st of March.in Puxatanee,Pennsylvania this morning it was reported that 116 year old ground hog Puxatanee Phil did indeed see his shadow.Phil predictions are documented to be 100% correct (about 25% of the time).As far as Jerry Hinkle goes,well how often have you proved him wrong.
THE BIG BOPPER GETS NO RESPECT,UNTIL NOW
by Jerry Hinkle Special to The Holabird Advocate
Tomorrow marks the 43rd anniversary of what a lot of Buddy Holly fans call the day the music died.I became a Buddy Holly fan about 35 years after he died.It was then that I learned that he was on the the same plane that killed Ritchie Valens and J.P. Richardson, who was known as"The Big Bopper".
I saw "La Bamba" in 1987 like a lot of other people did,and became a fan of Ritchie Valens.But it all came togther in 1994 when I realized that they were all in the same crash.I even bought "The Buddy Holly Story" on video tape and soon discovered the best portrayal I'd ever seen of The Big Bopper by an actor named Gailard Sartian (before he made it big on "Hee Haw")
I listened to Bopper's recording of "Chantilly Lace " on an old 8-track tape of Grandma's when I was a young boy.Grandma also had a 45 record of that song with "The Purple People Eater Meets the Witch Doctor" on the "B-side"(if you've never heard of 45s and 8-tracks you may have to look for a museum with a 70s exibit).I became a fan of his instantly.As for the tape and the 45 RPM record,they've disappeared,although I may have worn them out by playing them so much.
I've learned quite a bit about Bopper since my childhood.The fact that he and his wife were Having a baby,and that Waylon Jennings gave him his seat on the plane that crashed.I found a compact disk that Rhino records put out of his best music and have gained a lot more insight to the man.He was quite the songwritter.He composed "White Lightnin' "for George Jones and "Running Bear" for Johnny Preston.Bopper provided the background "Indian chant" on the latter.It went to #1 on the Billboard chart a year after he died.Of course he wrote all of his own material too.Like all truly great people he had a spiritual side that comes through with one of his lesser known songs "Somone Watching Over You(look for it in the poetry corner in this edition).
In 1999 I went to the Buddy Holly Days Celebration in Clear Lake,Iowa.I met the Crickets,Bobby Vee,and Ernie Valens(cousin to Ritchie),but the highlight of that trip for me was to meet Bopper Jr.,the son that was born fatherless.He looked and sounded just like his father.He even wore "Melvin", the coat that his father wore on stage all those years ago.I even got up the courage to ask him for his autograph.Yes, I, your courageous dymamic Publisher who has met Govenors,Senators and assorted T.V. and musical celebraties was compleatly and udderly star struck,and he was even famous.he was just the son of a dead guy.he was nobody and yet there was something about him that was so much like his father.If I had seen the Bopper himself I don't honestly know what I'd have done.Only one other soul does that to me,but I'll probably never see "her" again.At any rate,Buddy Holly had "The Buddy Holly Story", Richie Valens had "La Bamba".Would some great film maker out there make a movie in tribute to the Big Bopper? I don't know.I just hope that If they do, I'm still alive to see it.
POETRY CORNER
"Ground Hog Day"
by Jerry Hinkle
It is Ground Hog Day
The ground hog comes out of his hole
He sees a shadow
It is the shadow of a semi-truck's tire
There will be six more weeks of winter
But not for that ground hog

"Someone Watching Over You"
by J.P. Richardson
If you do your best to do what's right
And you don't have trouble sleeping at night
And the Devil don't fill your soul with fright
Then there's someone who's watching over you tonight
If you lend a hand to every needy man
And you treat him like he's your friend
And your conscience tells you
You've done what's right
Then there's someone who's watching over you tonight
He'll watch over you as you rest your head
Angels will be sitting at the foot of your bed
If you do you your best to do what's right
And you don't have trouble sleeping at night
And the Devil don't fill your soul with fright
Then there's someone who's watching
Someone who's watching
Then there's someone who's watching over you tonight





Friday, February 01, 2002
 
VOL. I Issue 2A
THE HOLABIRD ADVOCATE STARTS SECOND ISSUE
editorial notes from the Publisher
All of us at The Holabird Advocate are pleased with the progress we've made with the paper since we started just 1 month ago.Some of the readers have complained that it's too different.Some non-readers are sad that they're not able to read it because of computer glitches or they are only allowed to use the internet for work alone.So if you are allowed to use the computer on the job to read this,do your courageous,dynamic Publisher a favor by giving 110% to your work when not reading The Holabird Advocate.Perhaps it could become required reading at your place of business.
JERRY AND E.E. HINKLE:THE NEW ODD COUPLE
Jerry Hinkle,Publisher of The Holabird Advocate,roomed with his 99 year old grandfather, E.E. Hinkle.If only someone had a video camera for that.It's a well known fact that that the old boy likes things nice and neat in the house,while Jerry is the exact oppisite of Mr. Clean.The only complaint known to us is that Jerry coughed all night long.Jerry wondered why anyone has to live with him as he is strong enough to go about on his own.And to think the nursing home want's to charge $2000/month for the nothing that Jerry did for free last night.It's not known if Jerry will go back in the future,but all of us at The Holabird Advocate think he should suck it up and do it and not force Harold and Mary to give up their regular routine.Of course a sensible thing like that is asking an awful lot of that family.




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